Comments on: South Park, Colorado Mining: Lack of Foresight http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:08:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: John Salera http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-341 John Salera Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:11:21 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-341 just an add-on to my earlier comment. In november I purchased 99% yttrium, from china of course, for $17.25 a pound. I priced it again last week and was quoted $25 per pound. Obviously, the chinese are doing quite well. just an add-on to my earlier comment. In november I purchased 99% yttrium, from china of course, for $17.25 a pound. I priced it again last week and was quoted $25 per pound. Obviously, the chinese are doing quite well.

]]> By: michelemurray http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-325 michelemurray Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:32:00 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-325 I need to amend my condemnation of the geotechnical work done for Park County on some of these applications – at least from one of the geos who wrote one of the geotechincal reports. He said he "never condemned the mineralization potential of the property he was asked to evaluate". In our conversation, he mentioned a point in fact: "the county can tell a guy the property is zoned mining and he can have permission to live there according to the current law, as outlined in Land Use Regulations. Having said that, it's up to the guy to live under the threat of active mining next door or even on his property down the road." I do maintain that there are other geos who write technical reports for Park County who claim that there is no mineralization potential on mining zoned properties and whatever they need purport for the sake of their client without having to provide any study of the property. That said, the mining properties are being absorbed by the Conditional Use Permits in Park County, which makes for a loop hole in their no growth policy. These wilderness areas would have been mined and reclaimed and continued to be wilderness areas at a great economic benefit are now being developed into residential areas. I need to amend my condemnation of the geotechnical work done for Park County on some of these applications – at least from one of the geos who wrote one of the geotechincal reports. He said he “never condemned the mineralization potential of the property he was asked to evaluate”. In our conversation, he mentioned a point in fact: “the county can tell a guy the property is zoned mining and he can have permission to live there according to the current law, as outlined in Land Use Regulations. Having said that, it’s up to the guy to live under the threat of active mining next door or even on his property down the road.”

I do maintain that there are other geos who write technical reports for Park County who claim that there is no mineralization potential on mining zoned properties and whatever they need purport for the sake of their client without having to provide any study of the property. That said, the mining properties are being absorbed by the Conditional Use Permits in Park County, which makes for a loop hole in their no growth policy. These wilderness areas would have been mined and reclaimed and continued to be wilderness areas at a great economic benefit are now being developed into residential areas.

]]> By: michelemurray http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-320 michelemurray Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:30:10 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-320 Thanks, Andrea and good to hear from you. I am glad you are back in the saddle in SA too. I've been in Mexico. As per all Coloradoans needing to read that article -- South Park has me reeling. When I left, people were getting upset over the proposed in-situ uranium project down by Ranch of the Rockies. While I was gone a rancher arranged 32 buffalo to be shot for open-range grazing on his property and the shooters just left them there to rot, which has just sickened me. Land-use issues, State law vs County law, mining, ranching, and the wild west -- it's all right here. Thanks, Andrea and good to hear from you. I am glad you are back in the saddle in SA too. I’ve been in Mexico. As per all Coloradoans needing to read that article — South Park has me reeling. When I left, people were getting upset over the proposed in-situ uranium project down by Ranch of the Rockies. While I was gone a rancher arranged 32 buffalo to be shot for open-range grazing on his property and the shooters just left them there to rot, which has just sickened me. Land-use issues, State law vs County law, mining, ranching, and the wild west — it’s all right here.

]]> By: Andrea http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-318 Andrea Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:19:10 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-318 Excellent article, Michele! Something every Coloradan/American should read. People need to understand that gas is not the only thing we are dependent on from foreign countries. I write this from my hotel in South America where I will work most of this year (instead of in Colorado/US) because they actually want to responsibly develop their resources here. Excellent article, Michele! Something every Coloradan/American should read. People need to understand that gas is not the only thing we are dependent on from foreign countries. I write this from my hotel in South America where I will work most of this year (instead of in Colorado/US) because they actually want to responsibly develop their resources here.

]]> By: michelemurray http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-299 michelemurray Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:36:20 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-299 John: China is reining in many of their exported strategic resources that the US (and other countries) have become reliant on, not just REEs. I just read a post about the government of Cotes D’Ivoire suspending taxes (ABIDJAN, 2 April 2008 (IRIN) – “Cote d’Ivoire’s government has announced emergency measures to cut prices of food and basic services following protests against the cost of living, but demonstrators have warned they are ready to go back on to the streets as soon as prices creep up again. The government has promised to temporarily suspend taxes on staple goods including rice, oil, milk, flour, sugar and fish, in a statement released on 1 April. “) due to rioting over the price of cost of living. I am not inferring that the US is headed to anarchy over the costs of resources coming down the pipeline, but I do see that the economic stress is going to make for severe consequences in less affluent and politically unstable countries. What to do? Well, we have to keep yammering our story and try to get our own general public to see that our resources – and mining – are integral to our lifestyle. When our country does well, then other countries benefit as well. John:

China is reining in many of their exported strategic resources that the US (and other countries) have become reliant on, not just REEs. I just read a post about the government of Cotes D’Ivoire suspending taxes (ABIDJAN, 2 April 2008 (IRIN) – “Cote d’Ivoire’s government has announced emergency measures to cut prices of food and basic services following protests against the cost of living, but demonstrators have warned they are ready to go back on to the streets as soon as prices creep up again. The government has promised to temporarily suspend taxes on staple goods including rice, oil, milk, flour, sugar and fish, in a statement released on 1 April. “) due to rioting over the price of cost of living. I am not inferring that the US is headed to anarchy over the costs of resources coming down the pipeline, but I do see that the economic stress is going to make for severe consequences in less affluent and politically unstable countries.

What to do? Well, we have to keep yammering our story and try to get our own general public to see that our resources – and mining – are integral to our lifestyle. When our country does well, then other countries benefit as well.

]]> By: John Salera http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-296 John Salera Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:22:54 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-296 Michele, great article on a needed subject. I know first hand from our business, we're a rare earth company, that china ( as the worlds only practical REE supplier) has not only greatly raised prices but is also restricting supply. In real terms, they own the worlds rare earth supply and control the market. As you mentioned many new technology applications contain "strategic minerals" and we're completely dependent on foriegn goverments for our supply of them. Not a very good idea in my book. Michele,

great article on a needed subject. I know first hand from our business, we’re a rare earth company, that china ( as the worlds only practical REE supplier) has not only greatly raised prices but is also restricting supply. In real terms, they own the worlds rare earth supply and control the market.

As you mentioned many new technology applications contain “strategic minerals” and we’re completely dependent on foriegn goverments for our supply of them. Not a very good idea in my book.

]]> By: michelemurray http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-300 michelemurray Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:39:03 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-300 Dear San Diego: Were you really "thinking quite a bit about the other “stuff” that we pull out of the ground"? Cuz that's pretty big thoughts for the Valedictorian of Hinkley High School, 1976. Miners don't pull everything out of the ground you know. Sometimes we pull stuff outta our .... Good to hear from you and thank you. Dear San Diego:

Were you really “thinking quite a bit about the other “stuff” that we pull out of the ground”? Cuz that’s pretty big thoughts for the Valedictorian of Hinkley High School, 1976. Miners don’t pull everything out of the ground you know. Sometimes we pull stuff outta our …. Good to hear from you and thank you.

]]> By: San Diego http://alloneriver.mining.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-295 San Diego Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:12:07 +0000 http://alloneriver.blog.infomine.com/2008/04/01/south-park-colorado-mining-lack-of-foresight/#comment-295 Michele, Being an ignorant slob (as far as this topic is concerned), I'll take your post at face value. Of course, I know you to be a thoughtful, reasonable person, too. The recent hysteria over this country's gas prices has had me thinking quite a bit about the other "stuff" that we pull out of the ground. With nearly 40% of the world's population in China and India, two countries rapidly accelerating their economies, we are in for a rude awakening. Thanks for posting this. I'm a slightly-less-ignorant slob this morning. Michele,

Being an ignorant slob (as far as this topic is concerned), I’ll take your post at face value. Of course, I know you to be a thoughtful, reasonable person, too. The recent hysteria over this country’s gas prices has had me thinking quite a bit about the other “stuff” that we pull out of the ground. With nearly 40% of the world’s population in China and India, two countries rapidly accelerating their economies, we are in for a rude awakening. Thanks for posting this. I’m a slightly-less-ignorant slob this morning.

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